¶ Welcome & Getting Started!
Welcome to Knock Knock, the newbro-friendly corporation in the INIT. family!
The Initiative. (INIT.) is a nice and pvp-oriented community. We pay a lot of attention to be free of drama, racism, sexism, homophobia and any sort of discrimination.
We don’t even shittalk in local chat.
As a part of INIT, Knock Knock. welcomes players who are new to Nullsec and want to discover what a life in it has to offer.
Knock Knock is the perfect place for you if you are or want to be pvp-oriented and eventually join a regular INIT corp in the future.
In Knock Knock you will find
- a “teaching platform” on the Wiki, with links to useful guides and tutorials for most topics in Eve Online
- several topic specific channels on our Discord server (e.g.: mining, exploration, PvP, faction warfare, etc…) in which you can ask questions and get answers from some experienced INIT members
- a weekly schedule for corp events, including: PvP fleets, teaching sessions on various topics like PvP, PvE aswell as QnA sessions on voice channels to answer your questions
- and above all we hope that you will make friends to team up with, to shoot hostiles with, to later join a regular corp with and maybe even meet in real life
The Initiative. is a no-hand holding pvp-oriented alliance. So besides what Knock Knock plans to provide you, we expect you to work on your side of things to learn the game mechanics, read the guides and tutorials, make mistakes, die, reship and improve. In INIT we embrace the challenge - we don’t complain.
Being in Knock Knock will give you access to the entire INIT space (Fountain + 2 constellations in Cloud Ring + 4 constellations in Delve).
You will have to follow INIT policies and rules which regulate PvE activities, the market, taxes, moon mining, the use of intel channels and other things. All the information necessary to live by these rules is on the INIT Wiki and a Knock Knock specific summary is given below. Weekly onboarding sessions for new joiners with most of the relevant information are done every weekend on voice chat.
¶ Access to INIT and Knock Knock Services
INIT uses Alliance Auth, Discord, Mumble and a Wiki.
By following the guides linked below you will learn how to properly set these services up and finish the onboarding process.
- INIT. Auth & Wiki. Don’t pay attention to joining “groups” on Auth, it is a feature for Init members.
- INIT Discord and Knock Knock Discord Setup
- Mumble Setup
Until you have these set up you will not be able to function properly within our Alliance - so get them sorted as soon as possible!
Specifically, having all your characters audited on Auth is critical.
Your corp directors/recruiters can guide you through the whole process.
If you have questions or are stuck on one of the steps do not hesitate to ask them.
You might read later on the Wiki that INIT members need to have a “Ghost character”.
This is NOT the case for Knock Knock members.
¶ Discord and You
On INIT discord, You have access to some channels:
- “I. general” to discuss about everything not much related to eve. Please, don’t ask questions about specific eve-related topics there, ask your questions in the corresponding chans on Knock Knock discord.
- “Alliance announcements” and “psa” allow you to follow Init’s life and goals (“Alliance announcements” for weekly important news, “psa” for day-to-day alliance infos).
Most of your discord activity will occur on Knock Knock discord. On Knock Knock discord you will find :
- an “events” tab at the top, where incoming corp events are displayed: teaching sessions, Q/A sessions, planned fleets. Beware, these events appear under your local time, not eve-time. You can declare which ones you are interested in.
- announcements and preping and ping channels (using eve time)
- thematic channels (industry, mining, exploration, etc.) where you can ask questions about these eve-related topics. In these channels, some Init members will be present and can answer your questions and give you advices. They have the tag “Knock elders”. Of note, you can deactivate the chans that are not in your fields of interest in the “Browse channels” tab at the top
- general chan to discuss about various things, including sports, life, love etc with both other Knock Knock members and Knock elders.
¶ WHAT TO DO AFTER REGISTERING
1) What to do with your assets in High-sec or Low-sec
- If your assets are not worth much (less than 30M ish), don’t waste time trying to bring them to null sec.You will earn ISK in null sec and will get new assets quickly.
- If your assets are worth it, you can bring them to Jita and do a courrier contract to one of our freight services (see below) to have them moved for you to C-N
2) Travel to your new home and set your home station to C-N4OD - Fountain of Resets
- In game, check the “Message Of The Day” (MOTD) at the top of the corp chat channel. Right click on “C-N4OD - Fountain of Life”, and select
Set Destination. - Make sure to properly set your Route settings:
Click on the “A” next to “Route” Check the boxesPrefer shorterandInclude Jump Gates in Route.
- You now have a route set. Grab a shuttle and start traveling to C-N.
- Once you are docked in the Keepstar, right click on it’s name in the top left of your screen and click on
Set Home Station.
Pro tip: Once every 12 months you can set your home station remotely. So if you have not used this option recently, just dock in a structure with a clone bay, open the clone bay, click on
select home station, and select “C-N4OD - Fountain of Resets” from the list. When you have done that, click onself-destruct. You will respawn in the C-N4OD Keepstar.
MAKE SURE TO BE IN AN EMPTY POD WITHOUT IMPLANTS before self-destructing!
3) Carefully read the wiki pages below to get aware of Init and Knock Knock policies.
4) Look at the skillplans proposed below, select a pve path to spend time and earn ISK, and a pvp role to start with in pvp fleets, put the skills in queue
5) If you are low on isks, you can ask to be given a “starter package” with a few ships to help you to start in null sec.
6) Start socializing with your new corpmates, join Knock Knock comms on mumble, ask questions on discord or on comms. Undock and have fun!
7) Look at the weekly events (teaching sessions, pvp fleets, …) announced at the top of corp discord. Beware! the time displayed for discord events is your LOCAL time, not EVE time
8) Set up automatic jump bridge payments in your wallet. This will allow jump bridge structures (which function like a shortcut in space) to freely charge you ISK up to a specified amount of ISK per unit of fuel without prompting a popup window upon use. We recommend setting it to 500 ISK just like in the image below. Don’t forget to click on “Apply” at the bottom!
¶ INIT Policies
¶ Summary of Init rules
Read this: https://wiki.the-fuel-cartel.space/en/sop/INIT-Rules-Overview
Read it 3 times!!!
¶ Fountain Geography (Dotlan)
- Access to Fountain can be achieved from Low Sec via Aridia, Null Sec via Cloud Ring, Outer Ring, and Delve.
Fountain’s Sovereignty
- Init holds all systems in Fountain except a few systems owned by Serpentis NPCs (“NPC null sec”).
- Serpentis NPC space is located in the Phoenix constellation which is located fairly central, slightly eastern within the region
- There are known hostiles based in NPC Stations in MN5N-X, Serpentis_Prime, YZ-LQL, A-1CON and WY-9LL. Some hostiles can also roam in Fountain. Therefore you need to keep an eye on Intel channels in game to prevent from being killed.
The regional gate J5A-IX (Fountain) / B-DBYQ (Cloud Ring) is sometimes camped by hostiles. Traveling through Cloud Ring toward FW space and Jita is risky. Be sure to have eyes, or think about using two other options: use INIT jump freighter services or use the wormhole metro (see below).
Alliance bookmark folders
Two alliance bookmark folders are available and are linked in the motd of the alliance chat in game:
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“INIT. Bookmarks” folder is the folder from FCs to the alliance. You need to have it online if you want to use the Wh metro to go to Jita.
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“INIT. Public Bookmarks” is the folder for the entire alliance.
You want to bm MTU’S so someone else can salvage? ✅
You are scanning in FTN and want other to know about a WH or site location? ✅
You want to share scanned DED’s? ✅
You have a BM and want to share it fast (there is no two minute delay if you move an existing bm) ✅
Every bm you make there must have an automated expire date (2 days or 3 hours).
New policy from the 09/07/2025: to leave space in init public folder, “detected” relic and data sites, which spawn due to Equinox explo upgrades, need to have an expiry date at 3H.
Other bms (wormholes, gas sites, regular data/relic, ghost sites etc.) have an expiry date at 2 days
¶ Market policies:
- Init income relies on taxes, including market taxes. For that reason, we use the market instead of contracts. Please read carefully market policies here Market: what can be sold via contracts, what is forbidden to do (relisting).
- if you want to quickly sell loot from ratting, exploration, mining (gas, asteroid, ice and moon ore) as well as salvage to the alliance, alliance buyback program is here buyback. Of note, the program changes regularly so first check what can be contracted or not.
- A corp buyback program could be set up in the next future.
¶ PVE Activities: Do not shoot blues
- INIT has widespread PVE activities to offer across Fountain, Aridia, and Outer Ring.
- PVE includes activites such as ratting anomalies, mining in belts or at moons, data or relic sites, gas huffing, escalations etc.
- Activites in NPC held areas of space are allowed, NPC Delve, NPC Outer Ring or NPC Fountain for example. NPC Space is free-for-all.
- You are encouraged to join the thematic discord channels on Knock Knock discord specific to your fields of interest.
¶ Ratting:
- Key rules for ratting are here: ratting.
- To start, we suggest you to focus on using drone ships: tristan, then algos, then vexor, then gila, then ishtar.
Use drones dealing kinetic damage to shoot serpentis NPCs (hornets, vespa, wasps,for example).
If you are a very new EVE player, in a tristan, you won’t be able to complete a ratting site in null sec. However 5 tristans work perfectly to complete a “serpentis hub”! so find 4 other corpmates and go nuts!
¶ Mining:
- If a boosting ship like a rorqual (ice, regular ore, moon ore) or a porpoise (ice, ore, gas) is present in your fleet, he will provide mining boosts and compression boosts, which means that when your ore hold is almost full you can right-click on the ore and compress it directly, no need to waste time in unloading it somewhere.
- Ice mining: there are icebelts in the systems surrounded by a blue circle on the Foutain dotlan map here https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Fountain. Icebelts respawn if they have been completely mined, so don’t leave a few ice roids unmined!
- Key rules for moon mining are here: Moons_and_Moon_Taxes.
- High-value moons (r64 and r32) have been nationalized and are free for all. The moons are pinged in the frack channel on Knock Knock discord when their extraction cycle is over. The moon will autofrack 3hours later and then be ready to get mined.
- When you mine r64/r32 moon ore, do NOT use modules that induce any “waste” mechanics: use T1 strip miners!
- Moon mining is lucrative but you need to pay mining taxes to the alliance every two weeks. Read the complete post about moon mining and see how you pay your tax.
- DO NOT CHERRYPICK icebelts and mining anomalies! cherrypicks means only ining the good stuff and leaving bad stuff unmined, which prevents the site from despawning, prevents a new site from respawning, and forces someone else to come and clean your shit behind you!. Cherrypicking is allowed on moonbelts
¶ Exploration:
- You can see the cosmic signatures that have already been scanned by other explorers in the INIT Public Bookmarks folder.
- Relic sites and data sites: the rule is “first come, first served”: if another Init/Begin guy is already in the site when you land, warp out.
- If a neut/hostile is in the site, kill him! (or fly! you fool!)
- NO CHERRYPICKING! Cherrypicking means scanning the cans with a cargo scanner, hacking the cans with the best loot, and warping out leaving some unhacked cans behind. CHERRYPICKING IS BAD, because it prevents another site to spawn somewhere else. If some cans contain trash loot, you can make them explode by activating and closing your analyzer on them twice (“fail” hacking twice).
¶ Industry:
For those of you who want to try industry, the corp has organized a large BPC library for you in the Sotiyo named “Alicorn Trevi Foundry” in B17.
BPCs are stored in containers in the corp hangar named “Blueprints”. You can only use them for industry jobs and you cannot open the containers and take the blueprints with you.
Put the materials required for the job into the corp hangar named “Members” and, in the industry window, set the “Input Material location” to “Members”.
Set the Output location to “Members”. That’s where the finished product will land when the job is complete
HOWEVER the hangar “Members” is accessible to all corp members. It means that another corpmate could take what you put inside this hangar. For that reason we recommend you to use secure containers with passwords in this hangar. Find more infos here https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Containers#Station_container
¶ Freight services:
Init has two freight services who can haul your stuff from/to Jita in a secure way using courrier contracts, they are cheap and efficient.
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Init. Freight:
discord: https://discord.gg/Bbr5y2tpwE
Website: https://initfreight.org/
Init. Freight offers a special discount for Knock Knock. members: instead of their usual cost (850 ISK/m3 + collateral fee), you can do your courrier contracts to them at 700 ISK/m3 flat cost without collateral fee. Maximum collateral allowed is 2 billions. Insert “knock knock” in the courrier info window. This offer is permanent as long as it is not abused. -
Black Market Seeding (BMS):
discord: https://discord.gg/PGpYtztt85
Website: https://www.blackmarketseeding.com/
BMS has a special offer to help you to settle in C-N: a “one-time use” code for a 50% discount courrier contract from Jita to C-N. The code is valid for 3 months and will be given to you by your recruiter if you ask for it.
¶ PVP Activities: Do not shoot blues
- Select one of the pvp roles suggested by us, and copy and paste the skill lists (see below) at the end of your skill queue after the skills for your pve path.
- Pvp fleets are regularly organized for Knock Knock members. KK members can join Init “nons-strategic” fleets but not strat ops (strat_ops are named “alpha” / “beta” / “gamma” fleets).
**Pvp fleets are often pinged on KK discord, but remember to regularly check the fleet timerboard on auth there https://zero.the-initiative.rocks/optimer/ to see incoming fleets and join them when fleet time comes. **
(Cheap) pvp ships can be handed out for free if needed. You give them back when the fleet is over. - Specific pvp-teaching sessions are organized regularly. Weekly pvp fleets are planned in advance among corp events, but unplanned pvp fleets can be pinged here and there.
- Srp: If you join an Init fleet and loose your ship, do NOT claim srp on auth from Init, KK members don’t have access to it. However KK will happily srp your losses (as long as you don’t use blingy expensive ships). We are happy if you join Init pvp fleets, have fun and pew pew. Go nuts!
To get srp, post your killmail in the channel "srp" following the format and the corp will send you the isks
¶ Knock Knock teaching platform
On this page, you will find some useful guides and tutorials about various topics in eve => Guide Collection
¶ Knock Knock events
Every week you are given a weekly schedule with different corp events that you can join: corp pvp fleets, teaching sessions, Q/A sessions. These events are displayed on corp discord in the “event” tab at the top (displayed with your LOCAL time).
The coordinators who do the planification are Boutdechoux Malhorne and Wyk Bathana.
You will regularly be asked about which topic you would like to have a session, and the schedule will be adjusted accordingly.
Beside these events planned in advance, some unplanned fleets (for pvp or pve) can be pinged here and there when an Init member wants to take you with him.
¶ Doctrines and skill plans
Knock Knock doctrines are saved in “corp” fittings in game. Activate the filter “corp fittings” to see them and type “KK”, all suggested fits will appear:
We have defined for you
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a set of pve doctrines to start with :
Venture for moon mining
Vexor for ratting
Probe for exploration
Thrasher or catalyst for salvaging
Epithal for PI
Iteron for hauling -
and a set of pvp doctrines to start doing pvp fleets
Talwar for dps
Slasher for tackling
Burst for logi
Vigil for ewar
You will find the corresponding skillplans saved in corporation skillplans:
Skillplans have been saved in corp skillplans. Once you have chosen a path, click on the selected skillplan -> show skill plan contents -> buy missing skillbooks -> start training
We suggest you to
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Train first the skillplan “Beginner starting skills”
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select a “pve path” and add the corresponding skillplan to your skill queue: the most common ones include: ratting, mining, exploration, abyssals, PI. Of note this is a sandbox, so you are free to focus on less common careers, as industry, trading, etc. even if these activities are a bit harder for newbros. This pve activity will allow you to practice pve in null sec, spend time between pvp fleets and earn some ISK. Don’t focus on ISK/h ratio, select an activity that you find fun.
Remember, EVE is a game, not a job. Earning ISK is the mean to fund the activities that provide you some fun and to reach your goals, earning ISK is not the objective per se.
Also keep in mind that these are just initial guidances for very new players. -
select a pvp role and add the skillplan corresponding to the doctrine ship: tackler (slasher), dps (talwar), burst (logi), e-war (vigil).
¶ Progression to join Init
- After a few months, if you are active enough and fit culturally, we could give you the green light to leave Knock Knock and join a regular Init corp.
The different recruiting Init corps will post a summary of their characteristics and expectations in a specific chan on discord called “init-corp-recruitment”. - If you have made friends in Knock Knock and you want to move with them, you can either join the same corp altogether, or maybe create a new corp altogether.
¶ Key Alliance Structures
- C-N4OD - Fountain of Resets (Staging Keepstar)
- For additional details on other key alliance structures please go to the Auth Structure Browser